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Post by andrea1018 on Sept 17, 2007 19:42:01 GMT -5
An action a feeling or the impossible?
What are your thoughts?
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Post by pepper on Sept 17, 2007 19:47:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure about unconditional love. I think perhaps it is something you can feel for say your parents, but even then I don't really think it can be unconditional because if they did something very very very bad to change that, I think the amount of love you felt for them would drop.
So perhaps it doesn't exist in some peoples cases, unless you have the perfect parents or friends.
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Post by batman on Sept 17, 2007 19:48:36 GMT -5
I'm not sure about unconditional love. I think perhaps it is something you can feel for say your parents, but even then I don't really think it can be unconditional because if they did something very very very bad to change that, I think the amount of love you felt for them would drop. So perhaps it doesn't exist in some peoples cases, unless you have the perfect parents or friends. I think the only being capable of unconditional love would be G-d. I would like to strive for it, but like you say, if someone did something really bad... I am not sure I could still love them.
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Post by pepper on Sept 17, 2007 19:52:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure about unconditional love. I think perhaps it is something you can feel for say your parents, but even then I don't really think it can be unconditional because if they did something very very very bad to change that, I think the amount of love you felt for them would drop. So perhaps it doesn't exist in some peoples cases, unless you have the perfect parents or friends. I think the only being capable of unconditional love would be G-d. I would like to strive for it, but like you say, if someone did something really bad... I am not sure I could still love them. Even with God though, you can feel less loving towards him if something horrid happens in your life and you have no one else except a higher power to blame.
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Post by andrea1018 on Sept 17, 2007 19:57:35 GMT -5
I believe it can be possible. It is not easy but can be possible. If we look at ppl with a no expectations veiw in mind.
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Post by pepper on Sept 17, 2007 19:59:11 GMT -5
I believe it can be possible. It is not easy but can be possible. If we look at ppl with a no expectations veiw in mind. What sort of relationships..?
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Post by andrea1018 on Sept 17, 2007 20:02:42 GMT -5
All of them. I believe if you look at someone and realize that thier actions are roots of deeper issues than you can see past it and not hold them accountable. NOW. There are certain instances that are deal breakers. Like in everything but I have found that almost every situation can be solved this way.
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Post by batman on Sept 17, 2007 20:04:15 GMT -5
I think the only being capable of unconditional love would be G-d. I would like to strive for it, but like you say, if someone did something really bad... I am not sure I could still love them. Even with God though, you can feel less loving towards him if something horrid happens in your life and you have no one else except a higher power to blame. No, I mean G-d is capable of that love. We are not capable of giving it to G-d. In Orthodoxy, G-d is love. I see unconditional love as "pure love". The only thing capable of that is G-d and it's our job to try to be as much like G-d as we can. We always fall short, though. So no, I don't think it's possible.
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Post by pepper on Sept 17, 2007 20:14:59 GMT -5
Even with God though, you can feel less loving towards him if something horrid happens in your life and you have no one else except a higher power to blame. No, I mean G-d is capable of that love. We are not capable of giving it to G-d. In Orthodoxy, G-d is love. I see unconditional love as "pure love". The only thing capable of that is G-d and it's our job to try to be as much like G-d as we can. We always fall short, though. So no, I don't think it's possible. Oh I see! Yes, God, I think is the only person capable from what we know.
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Post by chapdaddy on Sept 17, 2007 20:54:38 GMT -5
Even with God though, you can feel less loving towards him if something horrid happens in your life and you have no one else except a higher power to blame. No, I mean G-d is capable of that love. We are not capable of giving it to G-d. In Orthodoxy, G-d is love. I see unconditional love as "pure love". The only thing capable of that is G-d and it's our job to try to be as much like G-d as we can. We always fall short, though. So no, I don't think it's possible. We fall short of the Glory of God but through us God shows Himself... ours is to get out of the way.
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Post by batman on Sept 17, 2007 20:55:41 GMT -5
No, I mean G-d is capable of that love. We are not capable of giving it to G-d. In Orthodoxy, G-d is love. I see unconditional love as "pure love". The only thing capable of that is G-d and it's our job to try to be as much like G-d as we can. We always fall short, though. So no, I don't think it's possible. We fall short of the Glory of God but through us God shows Himself... ours is to get out of the way. I agree, but we never do. Or at best, we rarely do.
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Post by chapdaddy on Sept 17, 2007 20:56:40 GMT -5
We fall short of the Glory of God but through us God shows Himself... ours is to get out of the way. I agree, but we never do. Or at best, we rarely do. You have to die to live and that is a daily process.
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Post by batman on Sept 17, 2007 21:04:43 GMT -5
I agree, but we never do. Or at best, we rarely do. You have to die to live and that is a daily process. Dude.... don't I know it
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Post by random on Sept 18, 2007 13:11:45 GMT -5
I think we are uncapable to love in such a way without God's help, but i think with Him, it is possible.
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Post by random on Sept 18, 2007 13:13:35 GMT -5
Though I would have to say that unconditional love is neither an action nor a feeling. since it is unconditional it could never be based on feelings, though feelings it might provoke. and action could stem from such a love but could never be the reason for it.
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